Talk:Európa

I have introduced nolmegolmo - scientist, similar to lambengolmo. Iron gollum 20:28, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

New words (discussions welcome):
 * n.H. (nó Hrísto) - BC
 * bronsë - bronze
 * Fenicini - Phoenicians
 * Antiquitë - Antiquity. I am not very sure abot this one. The Finnish word for it ist Antiikki, so maybe I should use something like Antiquë or Antiquië instead? Iron gollum 14:28, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Bronze: There is "bronze" in Qenya in PE12:88, anyone can suggest what it is as I don's have the book? If to simply adapt it to a Quenya sound, you would have Boronzë ('-nz-' was valid in Tolkien's early Quenya concept) or Borondë.
 * "Phoenician" would be adapted to Quenya Foinicer "Phoenician people" or Foinicerin 'Phoenician language' (cf. Gk. 'Phoinike')/
 * "Antiquity": Why not just Yárië?--Bellenion 16:39, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't have the book either. But if bronze is alreday reserved for something, then I would prefer borondë. The rest is agreed. Iron gollum 19:07, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wait a sec. Neither bronze, nor boronzë or borondë are valid Quenya words since a word cannot start with b. The closest valid word would probably be porondë. Iron gollum 19:23, May 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * PE12 has tambë "copper, bronze".
 * But copper and bronze are different things :) How am I going to keep Bronze Age and the Chalcolithic apart? Though, maybe we can define tambë as bronze only and urus as copper? Iron gollum 20:03, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, that's my bad. But P.E. b would derive v in Quenya, not p. So perhaps Voronzë or Vorondë.


 * And since Qenya had tambë 'copper, bronze', then I will stick to tambë - homograph is never a news among our natural languages.--Bellenion 04:47, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, then I would do so: use tambë for "bronze" and urus for copper. Iron gollum 11:29, May 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Grecië means 'Greek'? Gr- is not allowed in Quenya, so perhaps Hellas (cf. Ancient Greek: Ἑλλάς, Hellás)? Some people in Elfling had Hellenórë 'Greece, Greek people' (cf. Elfling 5132), which might be a good option, too.--Bellenion 05:04, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Umm, right. I forgot to check it, sorry. Iron gollum 11:29, May 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * But doesn't tambë have two meanings? Copper and as there? Last Waterbender 05:20, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Right, but it is no problem to separate a noun from a preposition. Like Belennion said, it happens all the time in natural languages. Iron gollum 11:29, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Some more words:
 * masematica (with Þ) - mathematics
 * nolemelwe - philosophy
 * lairesta - poetry
 * sanyesta - law (as a scholarly discipline)
 * altarnië - empire
 * Altaranie Romënórin - Roman Empire
 * a.H. (apa Hrísto) - AD
 * hravani - barbarians
 * Endëranda - Middle-Ages


 * We have already had well-attested Quenya Ingolë or Nolmë for 'Philosophy', right?--Bellenion 07:15, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Aww, yes, my bad. Iron gollum 07:36, May 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * arquenië - nobility
 * We can simply make an abstract noun from an adjective, so perhaps artië or aratië would be also plausible?--Bellenion 06:59, June 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * cordamo - cleric. Quenya is very poor on religious terms, so I derived this one from corda - "temple".
 * Also another coinage from Quenya yána: 'yánamo/yánamë instead of from Qenya corda.--Bellenion 06:59, June 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * ostomo - citizen, ostomor in this case - bourgoisie
 * Ennosta - Renaissance
 * pelë - revolution
 * talm- - to found (from talma). Not quite sure about that one.
 * I will go for *tancata- "to make firm" as a causative verb from the adjective tanca. Sindarin has tangada- "to make firm, confirm, establish".--Bellenion 06:59, June 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * vanimë - right (noun). maybe vanimië
 * Italinórë - Italy
 * Faranconórë - France


 * altaraniendesta - imperialism
 * cotyië - animosity (not sure about that, looks quite weird; is it valid?)
 * Should be *cotië.--Bellenion 06:59, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thx. Iron gollum 13:17, June 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * uovendesta - communism
 * Russonorë - Russia